www - Ha you must be joking. They do nothing except hold their monthly meetings were the only thing they arrange is the date of the next monthly meeting. Have you ever seen a www presence at the lake? i've heard a few of them photocopy licences too.



Wardens are a lazy shower tho'. they should be able to keep the knobs in their corsa's and escorts off the car park that's what they're supposed to be there for.

Anyone from www care to defend themselves?



Sounds like a challenge for you guys. I for one would consider joining and paying a sub_script_ion if they could prove that they are a commited group to doing something at the lake. They do seem a bit like the masons as a secretive society judging by what you read on this site.

I don't see that the www have anything to do with it - the lake is run by the council and I think that's the biggest problem - if it was a privately run enterprise they would be more likely to do whatever is best for business which means not missing any fares and developing the aspects their consumers want. The council works to a different set of rules.....



I didn't bother with a licence for years for all the reasons above. you can always launch from the far end of the lake ?

If they are at the window tell them you're going to see Gif - if they say why the gear tell them you're selling it to him /part ex'ing it.

What do the www do then? Secret handshakes and stuff? I thought the original impetus for them forming was to fight the bird restirctions. Seems like any other group in politics, lost interest. C'mon Bert & Ernie give us some insight into what you are up to, you may even get some of us to join.... if you want to that is, or are you wanting a small select 'elite' gang to form a clique at WK? Any other members of the www can also reply.

Its the council who should be doing something about it. The wardens will be heading for the dole queue if they're letting people through without paying. The people that aren't paying are jeopardising the future of windsurfing at WK, because if its not seen as economically viable then the council WILL sell off the land and build a hotel.



Perhaps we should ask the wardens why people aren't stopped ? There's a 3rd party insurance declaration on the licence form, so how many people are sailing uninsured ?



Think about it, its not that clever being a cheating b'stard you always get your payback and the "chavs" will get the last laugh !

West Wirral Windsurfers club (WWW) has been about for many years, the club was not "formed to fight the bird restrictions". I join the club last year, I'd head there was a club but did know much about it until the issue regarding the Bird Restrictions.



Having moved to the area about 6 years ago but sail regularly at West Kirby for the past 10+ years, I would say I know a far few of the regulars at West Kirby some are members of WWW some are not. I dont intend to force anyone to join WWW nor would I stop anyone. I wouldn't say the club is elite gang or a clique, and the members I know don't want that type of club or for the club to seen that way. During the time Ive sailed at West Kirby there's been plenty of cliques / elite gangs and politics among the many people who sailed at West Kirby, live and let live.



What does the club get up to? Last year the WWW raised over 400 for local charities, had a couple of trips away, arranged a Mounting Boarding course and discounted coaching sessions with Windy John. This Year? Not sure yet, some members are going snow boarding, they're also going to Club Vass sometime in the summer.Theres bound to be a few camping trips to North Wales / Anglesey and probably the Raft Race and 24Hour Windsurf. If anyone wants to join-in these activities they can.



Maybe WWW needs to step it up a gear, but thats up to the members. You will find in life that some people will do things for no reward or kudos, while others want something for nothing. You will also find that people have priorities, Do I go Windsurfing or try to improve the facilities at West Kirby. Peoples priorities vary with time.



If you feel that the club may be able help with Raising the Standard! (sorry had to get that in working for Vauxhall ) of the Facilities at the Lake, Ill arrange for it to be add it to the agenda of the next meeting on Monday 21st March 8.00 p.m. at West Kirby Social Club, Look forward to seeing you there.





Sorry I got the date wrong the next meeting is Monday 11th April 2005 at 8.00pm